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Drake Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.13 15:17:00 -
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You people don't know how to read..... seriously....go back to school...and learn to read.
#### No....for the millionth billionth time.
Stop being dense for once.
If you can't learn to live with your choices....then please quit the game and Biomass your toon because we don't care about your tearful whines anymore. ================ FloppieTheBanjoClown for CSM 7! |

Drake Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.13 23:00:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:You got that OP? You are not allowed to have your own opinions or desire to make changes that don't fall directly in line with what everybody else wants because Drake and Tidurious said so!
There have been a few other threads on this already. All of which the same people have gone ape **** crazy in because they refuse to accept that other people want things they don't approve of.
Don't worry...they will be the ones eating crow when CCP eventually makes a change with SP refunds.
Maybe if you turned your brain on long enough to comprehend youd understand.
Your entitled to your opinion allright.
Your also entitled to get called out for your stupidity as well.
You knew that the moment you started spouting half the crap you post.
Start doing your research on these subjects and stop spitballing crap for once people...some of us have seen the same damn idea every damn week every bloody time and they are given the same damn answer every bloody time.
Maybe if you bothered to listen first and speak later you'd get it.
CCP can do what they want they want...but they will certainly not be listening to you thats for sure....or the OP....they listen to the majority of the people who paly this game.
And anyone who thinks they can make these stupid ideas based on threats of subscription base quitting maybe you should actually TALK to these said subscribers for once. Never assume everyone is just gonna die with glee and complete joy over your ideas....start acceptnig the fact that maybe 1 in 100...1 in a 1000 will work...and just maybe you'll get somewhere.
I have little mercy or paitence for reposted ideas...I expect the same treatment of myself if I did so..and already have recevied such treatment. ================ FloppieTheBanjoClown for CSM 7! |

Drake Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.20 15:38:00 -
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Ngaio wrote:Drake Draconis wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:You got that OP? You are not allowed to have your own opinions or desire to make changes that don't fall directly in line with what everybody else wants because Drake and Tidurious said so!
There have been a few other threads on this already. All of which the same people have gone ape **** crazy in because they refuse to accept that other people want things they don't approve of.
Don't worry...they will be the ones eating crow when CCP eventually makes a change with SP refunds. Maybe if you turned your brain on long enough to comprehend youd understand. Your entitled to your opinion allright. Your also entitled to get called out for your stupidity as well. You knew that the moment you started spouting half the crap you post. Start doing your research on these subjects and stop spitballing crap for once people...some of us have seen the same damn idea every damn week every bloody time and they are given the same damn answer every bloody time. Maybe if you bothered to listen first and speak later you'd get it. CCP can do what they want they want...but they will certainly not be listening to you thats for sure....or the OP....they listen to the majority of the people who paly this game. And anyone who thinks they can make these stupid ideas based on threats of subscription base quitting maybe you should actually TALK to these said subscribers for once. Never assume everyone is just gonna die with glee and complete joy over your ideas....start acceptnig the fact that maybe 1 in 100...1 in a 1000 will work...and just maybe you'll get somewhere. I have little mercy or paitence for reposted ideas...I expect the same treatment of myself if I did so..and already have recevied such treatment. WOW, you're one of those folks, who completely lost connection with reality. You're so damn stuck in EVE world, that you see freedom of others' speech as your own right. What you say is sacred. If CCP will ever add respec, I'm sure you'll still be stuck in EVE anyway, or maybe a bit more on forums, trolling about it, but then others will not give a damn about it. If people were not so insisting on ideas, reopening old topics, there would have been very little changes in EVE, as they would just disappear with pointless answers like yours. If you're against something state your opinion, and shut up, and don't try to shut up others. Also get a life.
Oh look at that....I do believe hes mad bro.
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Drake Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.20 19:00:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Triana wrote:FFS, this topic shows up every other monday. No respec ever, stop kicking a dead horse, we dont need and dont want respec. Obviously, if it comes up every other Monday then there must be people that want a respec option. If CCP has proven anything, it is that you have to kick the dead horse for quite a while before it gets done.
So If I keep scraeming like a little 3 year old saying I should get paid 1 billion ISK a week for playing EVE online every other day then I'll get it?
Oh wat.... ================ FloppieTheBanjoClown for CSM 7! |

Drake Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.22 15:12:00 -
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Tekashi Kovacs wrote:Smiling Menace wrote:This topic yet again? This is a fantastic idea. It will help me no end with rebalancing the 65mil SP I have so I can fly only the best ships and use all the best mods. I will become epic overnight when I get rid of all of my useless Industry, Trade and Science skills that I never use.
I will be able to fly all race's Dreads and Carriers with the SP I will get back. All of a sudden there will be tons of Cap capable pilots in my corp without having to train for the skills. WOOT! SIGN ME UP NOW!
And now you explain us how you will do all of this with just 3m SP? Dont make yourself look any more ******** and go read the first post, not just topics title.
This nooblet isn't very bright is he?
Allow me to highlight your foolishness Tekashi....
a 65 Mil SP Toon with 3 Mil SP to play with is a dangerous thing...
But then you didn't think that far did you? ================ FloppieTheBanjoClown for CSM 7! |

Drake Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:11:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:I'd use it if it were there, but don't care if it's never implemented. There's the obvious problem of potential abuse that would require it be very limited in scope if it existed at all, that's for certain.
I could probably free up 2-3 months of useless skills with a system such as this. The thing for bittervets to remember is that not everyone has the luxury of having all the basics down. It has taken me MONTHS of training to get into the Proteus that I'll be able to fly tonight (but still need another month's worth of skills to fly well)...and that's after flying a Legion for more than half a year.
Devil's advocate:
Let's say you started as Minmatar and have been training long enough to fly most T2 cruisers, T3s, and battleships with T2 guns. You decide you want to add Amarr ships to your hangar. It takes roughly 50 days to train from Small Energy Turret I to Large Pulse Laser Specialization I. An additional 7 days for T2 beam lasers of all sizes. 35 days for Frigate 5, Cruiser 5, and Battleship 3.
So it takes 90+ days to switch ships and guns to a new race, and that's not counting what it might take for you to train for a new kind of tank. It's quite easy for a player's first cross-training to require 4-6 months. For someone like myself, that represents 25% of total playtime in Eve.
It's for this reason that I wouldn't object to having some method for freeing up skill points, allowing rookie mistakes and aborted career paths to be repurposed so that players can get on to enjoying the game rather than regretting permanent mistakes. Losing a ship, getting podded, all those other mistakes are temporary: I can replace it all through grinding. Waste skill points? They're gone forever.
edit: this could also be made into a tremendous isk sink if it cost per SP, and the cost went up for every SP you had removed.
This....problem is...unlike us seasoned pilots....people WILL abuse this to hell and back.
It would have to be very drastic penalties...but the problem is....with how easy it is to get ISK....I would still shoot the idea down.
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Drake Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:56:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:Why do we need the ability to unlearn skillpoints? Why do we need the ability to directly buy skillpoints? Why can't you just use the character bazaar? This is from the first page of the character bazaar: 15m SP Tengu Pilot -- 6.5b20m Covert Ops Pilot -- 6b75m Leadership T3 Pilot -- 20b25m Gallente PvP Pilot - 9b32m Minnie PvP Pilot -- 7.5b28m Hulk-Freighter-Tengu Pilot -- 7.5b75m All-Race Sub-BS PvP Pilot -- 30bGiven the cost of plex... if you have money to spend, spend it on one of these characters.. then you reward a pilot who's actually played the game for the last several years and needs the isk rather than the character. I see no reason to allow players to redistribute skills, and I see lots of ways it could be abused. Either start your suggestions with a valid purpose/reason, or quit posting these threads! BTW: 1m skillpoints earns you cruiser V... instantly 1m skillpoints earns you t2 medium weapons... instantly Assuming you can already fly t2 ships, with around 2m freebee sp's, you can instantly train into any new races t2 BCs, cruisers, and below, with t2 guns and all. Given new FOTM's only change with major releases (read annually), how does your proposal not equate to: Quote: I want a tool to train into FOTM's instant
This this this....
As much as I despise people who trade/buy chars....I'd rather peolpe do that then manipulate SP's to be quite honest. ================ FloppieTheBanjoClown for CSM 7! |

Drake Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.23 21:30:00 -
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Voith wrote:Drake Draconis wrote:You people don't know how to read..... seriously....go back to school...and learn to read.
#### No....for the millionth billionth time.
Stop being dense for once.
If you can't learn to live with your choices....then please quit the game and Biomass your toon because we don't care about your tearful whines anymore. You'll have a point, and a clue, when the game is completely static and nothing is updated.
neither of which you have....and if you don't like it...quit. ================ FloppieTheBanjoClown for CSM 7! |

Drake Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.23 21:30:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Spikeflach wrote:Ok, it looks like essentially you double a persons training speed for somewhere between 16-48 days a year depending on the "cap"
one queue that trains, one that "un-trains"
This means that while a person is training for 16-48 days of SP, they will be able to instantly train a skill that normally would have taken 16-48 days to train.
Most skills don't take long at all to get to at least level 4. Even if its a skill you never use, the time you took to train is not that significant.
Unless you have like Amarr Titan 5 you want to "un-train."
But usually, when you go to level 5 on skills, you are specializing and aren't intending to screw up your character.
If you are not liking your skills, it isn't a long journey to train what you want to at least level 4.
You need to learn how to do math. You wouldn't be able to train while untraining. Only one or the other. If untraining takes longer or even half the time it takes to train the skill then you are still losing time that could be spent towards training. You will never gain SP at a faster rate...you will always lose SP that you could have had if you had just trained instead.
Learn to read....your assumption that screaming about something often enough getting you something is a waste of time....your no more right or wrong than the guy your criticising. ================ FloppieTheBanjoClown for CSM 7! |

Drake Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.24 15:00:00 -
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Why do I get the feeling the OP is a bitter toon who was bought and not trained from scratch.....and this is why he's pushing this foolish venture of an idea that has been rejected repeatedly. ================ FloppieTheBanjoClown for CSM 7! |

Drake Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.24 20:44:00 -
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Tekashi Kovacs wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:You realize that not being able to "undo" your mistakes is a core tenet of EvE. Its not, its just stupid mantra repeated by people like drake draconis & co. The thing they made it like that in 2003 doesnt mean its perfect and shouldnt be changed. Its game developers, they CAN do mistakes.
It's only stupid to you because you can't handle making stupid choices.
Own up....lifes tough...don't like it? Quit.
Welcome to EVE Online. ================ FloppieTheBanjoClown for CSM 7! |
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